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Why Video Still Feels Hard (and How Small Teams Make It Work)
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Most small teams want to do more video. The hard part is doing it every week, without the crew, the hours, or the budget to make it happen.
In this revisited episode, Matt sits down with Megan Torrance, Founder and CEO of Torrance Learning, to explore what it takes to make video work as a small team, and why the system she built years ago still holds up today.
Megan’s team rebuilt their studio so one person could walk in, flip a few switches, load up a teleprompter, and start recording.
That setup is now the engine behind Megan’s marketing videos and her stand-in client course (and the occasional goofy internal update, of course). It’s also why her team can go from ‘a client needs this course updated’ to published in a week.
In the conversation, Megan also gets into why a quick video beats a memo or email for tone and authenticity, the shot lists she uses to keep editing under control, and how Camtasia’s review workflow keeps feedback on the timeline instead of in email threads.
Learning points from the episode include:
- 00:00 – 01:09 Introduction
- 01:09 – 01:31 Megan’s background and Torrance Learning
- 01:31 – 02:46 Outgrowing the four-person shoot
- 02:46 – 03:29 Building a one-person studio with green tape
- 03:29 – 04:20 The videos the new setup unlocks
- 04:20 – 05:26 Why a quick video beats a memo, email, or Slack message
- 05:26 – 06:11 Shot lists, single takes, and keeping post-production manageable
- 06:11 – 06:50 Megan’s preferred tools: Camtasia’s review workflow
- 06:50 – 09:09 From a week-long course update to more authentic marketing video
- 09:09 – 09:58 Outro
Important links and mentions:
- Connect with Megan Torrance on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/megantorrance/
- Visit Torrance Learning: https://www.torrancelearning.com/
- Learn more about Camtasia: https://www.techsmith.com/camtasia/
- Listen to Megan’s first appearance on The Visual Lounge in episode 219: https://the-visual-lounge.captivate.fm/episode/making-video-production-doable-as-a-small-business
And because we have this setup and not finished, we can do like go from need to finish production and produce in the platform in a week.
SPEAKER_01Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, wherever you are and wherever you're watching from. Today we're gonna be revisiting an episode with Megan Torrent. You know, since we recorded this episode, a lot has changed in video over the past couple years. Namely, new tools. AI has been a like a tidal wave, changing so many things, we got some faster workflows, and I would say there's probably even more access to video tools than ever. But what hasn't changed is important. And that's part of what makes video kind of hard. It's deciding what to make, how to make it doable, and how to stay consistent as a small team. So if you're a small team, this might be relevant. If you're an individual contributor, that's still all relevant as well. So here's why I wanted to revisit this episode, because I think this conversation still holds up. As you listen, maybe don't focus on the specific tools, but listen for the decisions, the constraints, the mindset beyond the mindset behind making video actually work for your organization, as a creator, and for all the things you want to accomplish. With that said, let's dive into our conversation with Megan Torrens. Today we're gonna be talking with Megan Torrents about this idea that as a small business owner, how she's empowered by the ability to easily make videos. Megan, welcome to the Visual Lounge. Thank you. I'm super excited to be here. So, Megan, real quick, give us a little background about yourself.
SPEAKER_00So I am the founder and CEO of Torrents Learning, and we are a mostly corporate learning design and development company. So we do learning strategy, content design and development, a ton of video, and then learning platforms and stuff.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so let's we're gonna go back in time a little bit. Tell us about uh the need that you had for video, particularly during the pandemic. What happened there?
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay, so a couple of things happened. Well, I mean a lot of things happened, right? A lot of things happened. So a lot of things happened. Um, and we were using video, we were creating an off-the-shelf video product at the time, and um and that was great. And then we had a lot of um instructor-led courses and face-to-face stuff. And in the pandemic, uh, I was the only one coming to the office. So previously when we recorded video, we had it was whoever was in front of the camera, we had one person behind the camera, sometimes we had an additional sound person, and then we had script check, right? And so we had a lot of people in an enclosed space, which suddenly became a super, super bad idea. So um, at the same time with the pandemic, all of a sudden, all of my face-to-face classes needed to go online. And uh we had a little bit of time to kill, not a lot of time to kill, but some. So what we did was this is awesome. So our team set up a whole video situation in which it only required one person in the room, the person in front of the camera. So I could go in and these little little pieces of green tape around the room went like, turn on this, plug this, do this, and you know, one switch would fire up the amp and the lights and all these things, and then I would just load up my teleprompter and rock and roll. And that's been such an amazing tool, and we've taken that places we never thought we would.
SPEAKER_01So I'm I'm curious about that because uh obviously there's some work to get that set up, but what the out from an outcome perspective, here now you've got this ability that you don't you're not requiring two to four people to help you. And what kind of videos are you creating on a regular basis with that setup?
SPEAKER_00So now, now that it's easy and I just push four buttons, I can walk in and I can record video anytime I want, right? So I'm doing almost all of my marketing videos are in that setup and it's preset with a big white blank slide, so you can stick anything you want, so it's super, super flexible. Um, it also means that we have a little bit of license and creativity. So if we have a you know a client course and they need a video and we just need somebody to make a stand-in video, we can do that. Um, or sometimes we do goofy stuff just because we can.
SPEAKER_01Well, so okay, let's let's talk about that for a second. Because obviously there's uh this there's this flexibility that you have, there's this capability that you've opened up that you know, because you don't need those people. Uh but look, as a small business owner, you've got to be super aware of all the time that goes into video and all the time that can be spent, and then you hear you're saying a little fun, goofy stuff, right? Like I'm sure there's some CEO of a small business out there saying, No, we can't do we don't have time for that. So why is that important to you?
SPEAKER_00Well, so it's it's it's partly important because being authentic and real is super important. And I can write a memo that most people will ignore. Memo, email, right? Yeah century am I in, but right? Um, and and it's hard to convey a message in email to get the right tone, right? Slack is a little bit too casual, and then that kind of disappears too. And a video lets people go back and refer to things, it lets people see your emotion and your tone, and that's really helpful. Now the the trick is right, how do you do that at scale and or or with frequency and not make it be a ton of extra effort, right? So we try as hard as we can to make short videos, single take videos, and low post-production videos. I'm keenly aware of the amount of time it takes to cut out every single one of my flubs. So we have a few things that we do, like a shot list that I keep track of that I send to the team, like ignore, ignore, ignore. Oh my gosh, totally don't ever even listen to that one. Use this one, it's the right one. So those kinds of things that help focus the team's time.
SPEAKER_01So from a production side, uh, you know, you're going in, you're recording, yep, and then uh are you also editing or are your team's doing mostly the editing?
SPEAKER_00My team is doing most of the editing.
SPEAKER_01Uh is there anything that you've been able to pick up on to help out with that scale? Obviously, you talk about your shot list, right? Here's here's the things that work, here's the things that didn't work. Is there anything else that you found that to be really helpful there for your team to kind of speed through that?
SPEAKER_00You know, um so so a couple of things. One is um we're using the Camtasia um, the the review tool, right? And so that allows all of us, and we have a process by which, you know, here here's the shot, grab this one. Um before we clean it up, we put it in and we like, you know, chop here, add this. This is a great place for that silly outtake that you did, whatever, right? Um and that lets us get an initial take and edit round a second, second round of video, an edit round, then we're adding closed captioning and thing like that, and the the you know, color correction and sound and all the rough stuff, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes, awesome. Let me ask you this because you're you've been you've been able to invest in this way, and it's it's uh to me, it's always clear, clearly an investment, even if it was easy, even if it didn't cost a lot, from an outcome standpoint, yeah. Uh again, looking at from a as a leader of a small business, you're worried about the outcomes. How is how has vid that these videos that you've been able to do at building up a little bit more scale, how has that impacted things? Because you talked about you're doing obviously course videos, you're doing marketing videos, you're having some fun with it, you know, connecting with kind of making it human. Um what what what would you say that that's how has it changed your business or helped it?
SPEAKER_00That's a great question. So um one of them is speed. So um for example, we have we have these course videos out. They're they're on OpenSesame, they're on the Cornerstone platform, and um there are times when uh certain things will be out of date, or a client, right, or the language around things has changed, right? So in the last five years, the whole language around LGBTQ has changed. And so we've had to update things. Um or um we've had to add on to things, or somebody said, Hey, this version of this course is kind of lightweight. Can you beef it up to to hit this particular need that a client has? And because we have this setup, I'm not kidding, we can shoot, right? So go from need to finished production and produced in the platform in a week. And that allows us to move so fast because we have this efficient system. Um, it allows me to um pump out marketing videos pretty quickly, which is great. And they're a little bit better, you know. Yeah, I can hop in front of my Zoom and hit this recorded cloud, and and that's that's great, but it's not as polished, right? Everybody knows it's me in front of Zoom and it doesn't feel as as professional. Um and then the where where we're shooting just quick video, internal video or small targeted group, um, that's where we're bringing in that that authenticity and a little bit of fun, right? All the other stuff is pretty locked and stocked and not terribly extracting. It's kind of dry, right? It's it's kind of dry, yes, right? Um, and people have said, hey, you and your plain copy free or copy space background, it was a little bit boring, but it's fast and efficient. But when we can use all that free copy space to have fun, or we keep we keep track of not all of, but a lot of the really fun outtakes, we keep them because they become useful.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, Megan, this has been awesome. And I love I love that you're you're taking this as a leader and focusing on it because obviously it takes work to get that setup to be so anyone can walk in and use this studio. We've done the same thing at our our our office where we've got a setup that ideally people just plug in a computer, turn on the turn on a mic the camera, and they're they're have uh a setup that is way better, way better than their laptop camera and microphone. So I I love that you're focusing on it and and you can see those benefits from the video. So um, if someone want to connect with you, where should they reach out?
SPEAKER_00Good place to find me is at our website, torrentslearning.com, and torrents is t-o-r-r-an-c e. Um, or I'm on LinkedIn and it's also another really good place to play. And there's not a lot of Megan Torrens is there.
SPEAKER_01Perfect. Well, thank you, Megan.
SPEAKER_00Thank you.
SPEAKER_01All right, you guys heard from Megan. Look, you can do a once easy setup. You can use video in lots of different ways, whether you're small business, big business, you're an independent contributor, you're leading the team, video has power for whatever you're doing. All we ask you at the video on, do you take a little time to level up every single day.